![]() And what a people pleaser inherently will do, I think, makes you a better candidate for a lot of these other things. I can see that part of who I am is me, you know, and that’s not something that was caused by my parents or caused by my traumas, but they certainly count in the environmental amplification. And I think that I am or was at the executive level of people pleasing and you only get there through certain environmental things, but you also have it inherently. ![]() Stormy, childhood, I mean, just depression, right? Did people pleasing cause you a lot of struggle and pain in your life? This book is truly, truly a deep dive into your personal past struggles with mental health issues, and as someone who lives with bipolar disorder myself, it resonated with me a lot that people pleaser was discussed before suicide attempts. Her stormy childhood, her ongoing struggles with crippling depression, her suicide attempts and many other life experiences. Gabe Howard: On your media kit for your new book, it says and I quote, she spent most of her life shielding her vulnerabilities from the world, all while being a professional people pleaser. ![]() It’s to teach myself to be a better squeaky wheel when you need to actually be a squeaky wheel because you can’t just be the kid in the front of the class doing your quiz and getting one hundred, you know what I’m saying? You have to advocate for yourself when you need it, when you want people to see it because they’re so deep in their own stuff. And I added at the end of that chapter, and I am still working really hard on nobody cares unless you make them care and you have to write that for them, you have to be very clear. But the other thing, too, that nobody cares. I wish that that could have been instilled in me earlier, and that’s why I always use that now as my advice for my younger self, because it takes explanation, for sure. You know, they’re just thinking about themselves. To me, it’s almost worse that nobody cares because they’re like thoughtless. We all live in our own little silos so much. Beyond that immediate group, right? The people who you think at work are being manipulative and coming for you. I’m talking about the stuff that we tell ourselves. Also sounds terrible because of course they do. We give emotion and energy to things that do not deserve them, and that wastes a lot of who we are. And I do that checklist all the time where I’m like, Well, this matter a year from now, and if I can say yes, truthfully, I allow myself to put a bunch of energy toward it and be sad and feel frustrated and angry. What matters is you right now, your loved ones right now, the things around you right now, it the other stuff doesn’t really matter. Ginger Zee: Yeah, it that’s because it didn’t matter. Gabe Howard: I was trying to think of it, I wanted to sound smart on the interview. Can you remember what that thing is? Real question for you? I mean, think about the last time that you were struggling to fall asleep because you were so anxious about something the next day. It really doesn’t matter refers to everything, I’m always concerned about sharing stories or secrets from my past. Ginger Zee: Because for me, it’s not negative. But you go on to say, I know this sounds like a horrible thing for someone who has attempted suicide twice to say, but it’s actually the most powerful way to live. And if you would have said that and that alone, I wouldn’t have really had a question. You say it really doesn’t matter and nobody cares now. Gabe Howard: There was a very cool quote in your book that resonated with me a lot when asked what advice you would give your younger self. Ginger Zee: Great to be here, thank you for having me. Her new book, A Little Closer to Home,” is available now. Zee is the chief meteorologist at ABC News, reporting on the nation’s weather for Good Morning America and across ABC News broadcasts and digital platforms. Gabe Howard: Calling into the show today, we have Ginger Zee. Thank you.Īnnouncer: You’re listening to Inside Mental Health: A Psych Central Podcast where experts share experiences and the latest thinking on mental health and psychology. Producer’s Note: Please be mindful that this transcript has been computer generated and therefore may contain inaccuracies and grammar errors.
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